Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

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Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by GuyMassey » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:01 pm

I am trying to identify the surnames of the crew in the attached pictures. The aircraft is BF503 QS-H of 620 Squadron, taken in November 1943, possibly at Chedburgh. The Pilot is S/Ldr Philip Dale, my father is P/O Barry Massey. The full crew picture is annotated "George, Jonnie, Vic, Phil, Gus, Snowy, Barry - QSH Nov 1943"

The accompanying picture may be of interest.

Thanks in advance

Guy
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Re: Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by GuyMassey » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:03 pm

The attached is from my father's logbook November 1943.
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Re: Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by K4KittyCrew » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:18 am

Great stuff Guy, many thanks for your posting. I'll / we the members will see what we can find.
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Re: Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by GuyMassey » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:43 pm

Hi John,

Thank you for your reply. I have spoken to my father again about the photograph and he remembers the following information;

George – Bomb Aimer from Canada
Jonnie – Flight Engineer from the East End of London
Vic – Mid-Upper Gunner – From French Canada
S/Ldr Phil Dale – Pilot from Wimbledon (I can't make out his stripes so he may have been a Flt/Lt at the time)
Gus – Navigator from Wales
Snowy – Wireless Operator from London (Name probably "White")
P/O Barry Massey – Rear Gunner from London

It would be fantastic to have all the names in full. I have requested the ORB records from Kew, but that was weeks ago and I have heard nothing yet.
I believe my father is the last surviving member, I'd be delighted to be proved wrong!

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Guy
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Re: Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by GuyMassey » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:44 pm

Silly me! The log says P.Dale was still a F/Lt at the time!!! :oops:
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Re: Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by Bruno » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:53 pm

Hello Guy,

In my files (November 1943) I've found this crew onboard Stirling 'H'

F/Lt Dale
Sgt Watkins
F/S Grant
Sgt Newton
Sgt Thomson
Sgt Bazlik
P/O Massey

I've also found:
F/Lt P.J. Dale 87406
Sgt A.E Watkins 1601336 Navigator
F/S L.G. Grant R140527 Air Bomber

You should write to one of our members 'smudgersmith218' who has the 620 Squadron's ORB for the Bomber Command era (before 620 Squadron was transferred to 38 Group).

Kind regards.

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Re: Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by Bruno » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:04 pm

I also read this crew written by AlanW:
S/Ldr P.J. Dale.
F/Sgt C.A. Watkins.
W/O L.G. Grant.
Sgt R. Newton.
P/O B. Massey.
P/O J.D. Thomson.
I didn't give you the good Watkins!
The crew I read in my files was the crew when they were in Bomber Command so there was one more crew who should be an Air Gunner. This Air Gunner could so be Sgt Bazlik and could be "Vic – Mid-Upper Gunner – From French Canada".

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Re: Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by GuyMassey » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:07 pm

Hi Bruno, thank you so much for this. It is a shame that the initials of the crew are not included, but I will be seeing Dad later on and he may be able to help tie them up. I have bitten the bullet and have ordered the ORB for both 620 and 299 squadrons from the National Archives. If nothing else it should help me to understand some of dad's log entries.
I would love to find individuals and the descendants of those who flew with my father, I am sure they would have tales and other interesting information to share. Who knows, what might turn up! :D
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Re: Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by GuyMassey » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:37 pm

I now have the ORB for 620 Squadron. If anyone needs a look up please pm me!
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Re: Information wanted on 620 Squadron aircraft and crew.

Post by K4KittyCrew » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:15 pm

GuyMassey wrote:I now have the ORB for 620 Squadron. If anyone needs a look up please pm me!
That's great Guy. Hope you find what you want from them.
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