Luftwafle Claims on Bomber Command Aircraft

[K4KittyCrew]

Hello all,

If anyone requires any information on Stirling aircraft claimed by the Luftwafle, I may be able to assist you with identifying these details ......... example.



Date - Rank - Luftwaffe Pilot Name - Staffel - Unit - Enemy Aircraft - Place
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11-5-1941 - FW - Heinz Sawert - 3 - NJG 3 - Stirling - 5 Klm S/E Cloppenburg


And then cross referrence with details from Chorleys Bomber Command Losses (1941)


Stirling N6010 Information
Type Stirling
Serial Number N6010
Squadron 7
X1D MG-?
Operation Hamburg
Date 1 10th May 1941
Date 2 11th May 1941


Further Information
"Serial Range N6000 - N6049. 50 Stirling Mk.1. Part of a batch of 100 Short S.29 Stirling Mk.1. N6000-N6049; N6065- N6104; N6120-N6129 built at Belfast and N6065-N6084 at Aldergrove. N6025-N6028 and N6031 were destroyed whilst under construction by enemy action at the factory, and were replaced in May 1943 by MZ260- MZ264. Delivered by Short & Harland between Oct40 and Sep41. Contract No.774677/38. Delivered to Wyton 14Mar41, delivered to No.7 Sqdn 30Mar41. Airborne 2211 10May41 from Oakington. Cause of loss not established. Crashed near Cloppenburg, Germany. All are buried in Becklingen War Cemetery, Soltau. F/L N.Williams DFC RNZAF KIA Sgt E.J.Rapley KIA Sgt R.C.Watkins KIA F/O D.Mackay KIA Sgt W.F.Hodson KIA Sgt R.A.Pickers KIA Sgt L.Smith KIA "

Regards,
John

[K4KittyCrew]

Further to my above posting.

Here is the link all Luftwaffe Claims on Bomber Command. Again, in some cases you identify the actual luftwaffe pilot and there will be some cases where the best outcome will be a select group of pilots, operating on that night / in that given zone.

http://aces.safarikovi.org/luftwaffe.wa ... edits.html

Please be patient, it takes time to load.
This is an excellent research tool.
John

[Bruno]

Hi John,

Excellent link!
A great thank for your help.


Bruno

[K4KittyCrew]

Further to my previous post. There will be 'errors' throughout these listings ( That can be the case with such databases ) so do your best to cross reference as much as possible.



For example, a luftwaffe pilot may have claimed an aircraft but in fact, the aircraft survived to fly away only to be claimed by another pilot and or be claimed by the Flac batteries, etc. So don't treat everything as gospel.



Overall, the database should prove to be very worthwhile.

John

[Volker]

Hello,
2 years ago I located and probed both crash sites with my Detector. At both crash sites (ME-110 and Stirling N6010) I have found parts of the aircraft. Both aircraft crashed in a distance of about 1 km in the area of the small village "Beverbruch".. In a chronicle reports of an air collision. Whether it is true I can not prove it.It is very strange that both aircraft crashed so close together.

To this day, I am looking for a picture of the Stirling crew. I am in possession of an image of Fw.Säwert.

friendly regards
Volker

[K4KittyCrew]

Hello Volker and welcome to the forum.

If we can find a picture of the crew from Short Stirling N6010, we will post it here for you and all.
Sometimes, we are lucky, sometimes not. We will try.
Cheers,
John

[Karacho]

hello gents,

Short Stirling
ZM 263
HA-U
lost : 24. / 25. 6. 1943
shot down by nightfighter, Uffz Hubatsch / 5.NJG 5 ( 1.50 Uhr, Höhe 4.800 mtr, 2 KM east of Kalenborn) , nighfighter based at Erfurt-Bindersheim.
7 Crewmember = KIA
1 crewmember = POW ( Gunner Quigley )

i located this crashsite ca. 3 years ago...found a lot of wreckparts....
kind regards
Karacho

[smudgersmith218]

Karacho,

Would be interested in learning about your research into this crash site.

Kind regards

Smudger

[Karacho]

Hello smudger,

in the next days i will report to you about this Stirling ( HA-U ) . I have some german documents, wich explain the story of this loss, with eyewhitness-reports, etc..
Two crewmembers found one year after the crash in the forrest from people searching dural-parts from the crashplace...
Informations and report coming soon...
kind regards
Karacho

[jamesinnewcastle]

Hi

Can I hop onto this thread?

I'm very interested in any reports concerning N6012 (one report claims attacked by Night fighter) and N6009 (was definitely attacked by night fighter, I have two witnesses)

There is info on the internet about these two aircraft - which I already have - I guess I'm looking for unpublished (well not on the web that is!) information/photos if anyone has any.


Cheers

James