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Pilot Training

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Hi all

In the absence of a log book for my Uncle's RAF pilot career with Bomber command, I have obtained copies of the log books of his Navigator and and Air bomber.

While they are at 29 OTU flying Wellingtons, and also 1661 HCU flying Stirlings, my Uncle is often one of two pilots named on a training exercise.

Does anyone know if this would be a second pilot sharing the training, or maybe an instructor?
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Hi Neil,

The first named pilot should be the instructor. I assume from your photo that your Uncle was Sgt Grantham?

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Just to add that the standard routine was for the crew to fly dual with an instructor followed by solo; I am assuming that the number of pilots shown reflected whether it was a dual or solo exercise.

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Richard

Yes, this is my Uncle, William Edwin 'Ted' Grantham, who went on to 61 Squadron and died on the crews 24th mission, on the night of 7/8 July 1944.

Pete

Yes, the early flights at 29 OTU are 'Circuits and Landing's' with the dual pilots, then the odd 'solo', a few more dual, then a run of solos toward the end of that period with various named exercises.
At 1661 HCU, a few dual flights and then mostly solo

Here, the Remarks are just Exercise 1, 2, 3, 4 etc.
Is there a definitive list of what these exercises were at the HCU bases on Stirlings? They go up to Exercice 19B

Likewise, the final training at No 5 LFS Syerston they do Exercises 1 to 7

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The exercises I have for 5 Lancaster Finishing School are:

1. Dual circuits and landings [DAY]
2. Solo circuits and landings [DAY]
3. Fighter Tactics (including evasion, corkscrews, diving turns and fighter affiliation) [DAY]
4. Cross Country and high level bombing [DAY]
5. Dual circuits and landings [NIGHT]
6. Solo circuits and landings [NIGHT]
7. Cross Country and high level bombing [NIGHT]

There may be other lists, but this seems to be fairly standard training based on the information I have gathered over the last couple of years.

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[PS: Will dig out the HCU stuff for you later]
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Thanks Pete, that's brilliant.

I look forward to the HCU

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I'm sure I posted this before, but if not -

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Richard,

Brilliant
I would like a HD copy please. I will message you privately with my email address.

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